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karen, let's talk about what the president just outlined there. we know he signed several executive actions, he signed several executive actions. among them, strengthening background checks, the ability of federal agencies to share information. also, perhaps long overdue, pushing forward a nomination of todd jones to be head of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. there's not been a director in six years. he also outlined, not a huge surprise, we've been talking about a lot of these measures in recent days, several new things he'd like congress to take action on, including universal background checks, the assault weapons ban he is going forward with, and a ban on high-capacity magazine clips, and a crackdown on gun trafficking, which has less to do, perhaps, with newtown, and more to do with the increased gun violence that we saw in intercities across the country. your thoughts on his recommendations. >> a couple of things. one, all these recommendations, i'm going to say the phrase, common sense. every single thing he said sounds very re
karen, let's talk about what the president just outlined there. we know he signed several executive actions, he signed several executive actions. among them, strengthening background checks, the ability of federal agencies to share information. also, perhaps long overdue, pushing forward a nomination of todd jones to be head of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. there's not been a director in six years. he also outlined, not a huge surprise, we've been talking about a lot of these...
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ant and some lawmakers referred to him as king obama and tyranny, is that fringe or is that a larger portion of the nra's supporters and not just its leadership? >> well, i think it's a little of both. they have a longer ad which is about four minutes and as they sort of lay out the double down on this idea of the president's kids, mentioned david gregory's kids, as well. they have a ticker showing the nra membership going up because of the fight. the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth but propaganda. it is about ginny up support of gun lobby, for buying guns. it's about ginnying up a membership and donors to that organization. and they do that very well. i mean, i think historically, when's happened to the nra is the court controversy and in that way they become more powerful because they're able to swell their membership. >> so in fairness, chris, i won't ask you relating to republicans but to some democrats, joe manchin's comments regarding the president said i'm disappointed the president did not recommend the creation of a national commission on mass violence as i proposed. ma
ant and some lawmakers referred to him as king obama and tyranny, is that fringe or is that a larger portion of the nra's supporters and not just its leadership? >> well, i think it's a little of both. they have a longer ad which is about four minutes and as they sort of lay out the double down on this idea of the president's kids, mentioned david gregory's kids, as well. they have a ticker showing the nra membership going up because of the fight. the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth...
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obama seems to be moving forwards that away from the deal cutting. >> maria theresa, glen is talking long game, but in terms of the short game, the playbook seems to be one that he has used a lot in the last couple of months/year, i'll say, which is vault over congress and take it to the people and make them move however incrementally. the question is do we think is that can happen? can he have that kind of win on gun control 1234. >> he did exactly what he should have done. obama care, he said i'm going to go to washington, i'm going to go to capitol hill and negotiates inside, and people will come with me. what he is saying is he is basically drawing a clear line in the sand. this is where i stand. the american people, i'm going to -- i'm going to speak to you directly, and i'm going to go ahead and volley it over to the senate and they'll pass it. this is not my doing. >> hopefully they'll introduce it to the floor of the senate. that in and of itself will be -- >> i think the fact that reid said he was luke warm to the response and didn't realize, wait a second, this is a bad pr
obama seems to be moving forwards that away from the deal cutting. >> maria theresa, glen is talking long game, but in terms of the short game, the playbook seems to be one that he has used a lot in the last couple of months/year, i'll say, which is vault over congress and take it to the people and make them move however incrementally. the question is do we think is that can happen? can he have that kind of win on gun control 1234. >> he did exactly what he should have done. obama...
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about was repealing obama care. but michele bachman can't get any sponsors of her bill? >> isn't that interesting? fewer and fewer people, it seems, by the week, by the month, are interested in repealing obama care because as it rolls out, more and more people are actually gaining the benefits. it had overwhelming public support, and we polled in the blue dog districts, the more conservative districts. >> that is the bottom line. thanks for joining me tonight. "the rachel maddow" show starts right now. >> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. on the morning of january 18th, 1989, that was a wednesday morning, this is what america woke up to. >> this is nbc news at sunrise. >> good morning. in stockton, california, officials still have no clue as to why a gunman sprayed an elementary school playground with automatic weapons fire. more from nbc's david burrington. >> all of the dead and most of the wounded youngsters were from southeast asia, children of refugees. >> the five kids who died in that mass
about was repealing obama care. but michele bachman can't get any sponsors of her bill? >> isn't that interesting? fewer and fewer people, it seems, by the week, by the month, are interested in repealing obama care because as it rolls out, more and more people are actually gaining the benefits. it had overwhelming public support, and we polled in the blue dog districts, the more conservative districts. >> that is the bottom line. thanks for joining me tonight. "the rachel...
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today vice president biden will give his list of recommended gun safety laws to president obama. joining us is the president and the ceo for the certain for american progress. thank you so much for joining us. >> it's great to be with you. >> so, mira, we just finished talking about the debt crying and how the president is laying the ground work pursuing a broad argument understanding that at the end of the day he may have to cut a deal in some fashion. i wonder if the same thing isn't actually going on over gun laws, which is to say there is a broad package on the table. you guys have a very aggressive package of sensible gun laws, i might add, and at the end of the day the president said today in the press conference, will we get everything? probably not. i'm paraphrasing. is this effectively just staking out the biggest piece of property you can on the issue of gun control, preparing yourself for what will be probably a very heated battle in the end. >> well, i do think that on a range of issues the president has decided that -- if you look at his press conference, that you kn
today vice president biden will give his list of recommended gun safety laws to president obama. joining us is the president and the ceo for the certain for american progress. thank you so much for joining us. >> it's great to be with you. >> so, mira, we just finished talking about the debt crying and how the president is laying the ground work pursuing a broad argument understanding that at the end of the day he may have to cut a deal in some fashion. i wonder if the same thing...
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let's talk a bit more on the politics here of gun control. listen, what president obama proposed is sweeping and it's huge. the conversation now is what can actually get passed? give us a sense of what measures go passed? >> very little can get passed in the next couple of years. there's no doubt it's an emotionally charge issue. the polling numbers show that there does seem to be some movement at the public at large. but in congress there's simply is not. particularly among republicans and house republicans specifically. you talk to these members. teen moderate members in suburban districts even those in the northeast. they hear very little from their constituents in terms of stricter gun laws. i don't think there's any appetite among republicans to bring a bill to the floor in the house. >> so why do this then? you know, you have john boehner speaker of the house saying it's the senate's job and joe scarborough talks about how the nra being on the fringe now and the republicans are up against it in terms of an identity in their party. is th
let's talk a bit more on the politics here of gun control. listen, what president obama proposed is sweeping and it's huge. the conversation now is what can actually get passed? give us a sense of what measures go passed? >> very little can get passed in the next couple of years. there's no doubt it's an emotionally charge issue. the polling numbers show that there does seem to be some movement at the public at large. but in congress there's simply is not. particularly among republicans...
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., talking about impeachment. i just want to play senator rand paul appearing on fox and what he was saying about president obama. take a listen. >> our founding fathers were very concerned about having a separation of powers, they didn't want to let the president become a king. i'm afraid that president obama may have this king complex, sort of developing and we're going to make sure that it doesn't happen. >> so chris, i want to ask you based off of that, that's not the first time we have heard that type of language because we have these impeachment threats that are coming from other congressional leaders, the threat of impeachment coming from tray rid dell saying we have completely lost their checks and balances in this country, the congress needs to hold the president accountable for the decisions he's taking. and steve stocktop throwing out the impeachment word, what's the swell like in washington, d.c. with people throwing around that word, based on, you know, executive orders that have been put in place bef
., talking about impeachment. i just want to play senator rand paul appearing on fox and what he was saying about president obama. take a listen. >> our founding fathers were very concerned about having a separation of powers, they didn't want to let the president become a king. i'm afraid that president obama may have this king complex, sort of developing and we're going to make sure that it doesn't happen. >> so chris, i want to ask you based off of that, that's not the first time...
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not welcome to washington, you've been here for four years, serving in the obama administration. but let me ask you about the fact that we've been talking about that the president appointed veterans from wars, war veterans, john kerry, chuck hagel, to his second term cabinet. and yet it is interesting how the diminishing number of combat veterans in the united states congress, you're among the new ones, but believe it or not, there's a diminishing number of those members of congress who have served. how important do you think it is to have more combat veterans serve in the u.s. congress? >> i think it's very important that we have more combat veterans serving in the congress, on both sides of the aisle. i do think that that shared experience will allow us to work with one another and hopefully cooperate. and, you know, one of the things about being in the military, it's all about the mission. it's not about you or your personal ideologies. it's about getting the mission done. so i hope that in this next congress, i will certainly be able to reach out to my fellow iraqs and afghan
not welcome to washington, you've been here for four years, serving in the obama administration. but let me ask you about the fact that we've been talking about that the president appointed veterans from wars, war veterans, john kerry, chuck hagel, to his second term cabinet. and yet it is interesting how the diminishing number of combat veterans in the united states congress, you're among the new ones, but believe it or not, there's a diminishing number of those members of congress who have...
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and when i hear these guys talking about the obama girls being food for discussion here, let's talk about their safety. but then i'm talking about this guy saying the president reminds me of sadham hussein. there he is. and we were all, oh, my god, that kid is scared to death of this guy. >> it's not, by in stretch, the sickest thing he did. he basically accused them of murdering people merely to further his assault gun ban. >> explain how that would work. i know a lot of gun people, including my brother, bruce. but here's the question. >> you don't want to follow that. >> how do you organize branch davidian. they organized the raid, but to come up with the idea he justified the raids because he wanted to come out with gun control. it wasn't gun control. >> he said the president wanted them dead because they liked they're guns. >> what about militia members after those two guys were executed? the guys who blew up the oklahoma city. they're dead. and then he celebrates the fact that we've got militias. >> and your point is? i mean, that's who he is. this is -- this guy is -- >> what does h
and when i hear these guys talking about the obama girls being food for discussion here, let's talk about their safety. but then i'm talking about this guy saying the president reminds me of sadham hussein. there he is. and we were all, oh, my god, that kid is scared to death of this guy. >> it's not, by in stretch, the sickest thing he did. he basically accused them of murdering people merely to further his assault gun ban. >> explain how that would work. i know a lot of gun...
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we'll talk to stanley mcchrystal. find out what the man who led the u.s. mission in afghanistan has to say about his ouster. president obama's pentagon pick and a lot more. >>> and 2013 kicks off with another sports scandal. suddenly, a tear-jerking tragedy for one of college football's brightest stars turns into a twisted tale of lies. >>> good morning from washington, it's thursday, january 17th, 2013, this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. we couldn't ignore te'o. the first read of the morning. the president didn't just roll out a new set of gun proposals. he launched an emotional campaign to try to get congress to act, devoting more time lying out the need for new action on guns than the plans themselves. using every tool at his disposal to tap into public anger and grief about gun violence. in front of an audience that included parents of newtown victims, and making an emotional reference to one of the children who died. 7-year-old grace mcdonnell. >> i'm told she loved pink. she loved the beach. she dreamed of becoming a painter. chris, her fat
we'll talk to stanley mcchrystal. find out what the man who led the u.s. mission in afghanistan has to say about his ouster. president obama's pentagon pick and a lot more. >>> and 2013 kicks off with another sports scandal. suddenly, a tear-jerking tragedy for one of college football's brightest stars turns into a twisted tale of lies. >>> good morning from washington, it's thursday, january 17th, 2013, this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. we couldn't ignore...
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the house will pass president obama's sweeping gun proposal. we will get his reaction to some of what his colleagues are saying. plus, how is president george w. bush's secretary able to pull off an office renovation that costs $220,000 and why are we learning about this only now? just one of the things we thought you should know. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. we create easy-to-use, powerful trading tools for all. look at these streaming charts! they're totally customizable and they let you visualize what might happen next. that's genius! we knew you needed a platform that could really help you elevate your trading. so we built it. chances of making this? it's a lot easier to find out if a trade is potentially profitable. just use our trade & probability calculator and there it is. for all the reasons you trade options - from income to ri
the house will pass president obama's sweeping gun proposal. we will get his reaction to some of what his colleagues are saying. plus, how is president george w. bush's secretary able to pull off an office renovation that costs $220,000 and why are we learning about this only now? just one of the things we thought you should know. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios...
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about obama before the show that the majority of americans believe what's hindering economic growth is the fact that washington continually finds itself at an impasse or a position around how to resolve what seem to be to me and i think a lot of americans commonsense balanced solutions that should be put forward. without that, all of this, i don't think, comes to fruition. >> let me say one thing before we go. michael, if, in fact, the ofa infrastructure does work, does that not then -- does that not mean now all future presidencies will have -- >> the eternal campaign. to some extent, you do already, but this will rachet up one notch. >> it's also -- the political parties have disintegrated in terms of power. the republican side, everything is -- >> understatements. >> i know. the tea party groups, the stuff, those are now the epicenters of the political power right now. it's not the rnc. what organize for action is going to do is take look the dnc's traditional power structure and remove it. >> if we are constant campaigning from now to eternity, stop this thing. i want off. you l
about obama before the show that the majority of americans believe what's hindering economic growth is the fact that washington continually finds itself at an impasse or a position around how to resolve what seem to be to me and i think a lot of americans commonsense balanced solutions that should be put forward. without that, all of this, i don't think, comes to fruition. >> let me say one thing before we go. michael, if, in fact, the ofa infrastructure does work, does that not then --...
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>> i heard you talking about nullification? he's also talking about obama is not a king. well, if he's not a king, then you could nullify him. if he is a king, trying to be a king, then you can't nullify what a king is trying to do. what the previous gop name was trying to be a king. you can't have it both ways, one day say he's not leading us and the next day he's trying to be a king. what he put forward is very reasonable. he's not trying to take away everyone's guns. he's not trampling the second amendment. he's doing something very responsible that allows law-abiding, responsible gun owners to have their guns and protect themselves in their homes and create more safety for america. and he's done something that isn't worried about the political wins. he's doing what he thinks is right, what is the best policy. and i'm actually proud to see him stand up for what he thinks is the best policy and say we're not going to do the assault weapons ban. push them as far as you can. you know, the pro-gun right is lost to the democrats. so don't worry about them. we can still win
>> i heard you talking about nullification? he's also talking about obama is not a king. well, if he's not a king, then you could nullify him. if he is a king, trying to be a king, then you can't nullify what a king is trying to do. what the previous gop name was trying to be a king. you can't have it both ways, one day say he's not leading us and the next day he's trying to be a king. what he put forward is very reasonable. he's not trying to take away everyone's guns. he's not trampling...
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talking points memo obtained senator paul's proposal. there is no mention of a single order in violation of the constitution. not one. maybe these righties just don't know enough about the constitution. perhaps there is someone who could help them out. let's try former bush attorney general michael mukasey. >> it seems to be by definition an abuse of power, a power grab, if you will. no? >> it is -- politically it is a power grab, yes. >> politically is it then unconstitutional in some instances? >> i don't think it's unconstitutional in the sense that i don't think it's something you that could get a court to find unconstitutional. >> uh-oh. it's not the answer hannity was looking for. maybe he should try asking it in a different way. >> so did you think that obama care was unconstitutional? >> did i? >> did you agree with the majority opinion? >> the supreme court said it was unconstitutional. >> you did? >> so you agree with john roberts? >> yes. >> you did. i'm surprised. because in that case -- so through the use of the commerce cla
talking points memo obtained senator paul's proposal. there is no mention of a single order in violation of the constitution. not one. maybe these righties just don't know enough about the constitution. perhaps there is someone who could help them out. let's try former bush attorney general michael mukasey. >> it seems to be by definition an abuse of power, a power grab, if you will. no? >> it is -- politically it is a power grab, yes. >> politically is it then...
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about, michelle obama with her new hairdo. bangs. she got the new cut just in time for her birthday dinner last night. she and the president dined with friends at cafe milano in georgetown. >>> and a big red bus is touring washington, d.c. with wax figures of the obamas. even the fake figures got spruced up for the inauguration. see, they added a little more gray hair to the president. the wax figures were created by madame tussaud's. >>> are you ready for this, $294 million, zillow calculated the value with an algarhythm. the design, $294 million. >>> and if you read only one thing this morning, if you're looking for a place to go for a special occasion, my must-read is for you. aaa is out with its list of the best of the best. the restaurants all across the country that have been awarded the coveted five-diamond rating, including four new ones. i'd love to hear if you've eaten at any of them. if you think they deserve that ranking, it's up on our facebook page at facebook/jansingco. joplin, missouri, come back from a devasta
about, michelle obama with her new hairdo. bangs. she got the new cut just in time for her birthday dinner last night. she and the president dined with friends at cafe milano in georgetown. >>> and a big red bus is touring washington, d.c. with wax figures of the obamas. even the fake figures got spruced up for the inauguration. see, they added a little more gray hair to the president. the wax figures were created by madame tussaud's. >>> are you ready for this, $294 million,...
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and when i hear these guys talking about the obama girls being somehow food for discussion here, let's talk about their safety as some joke line. but then, talking about this guy saying the president reminds him of sadhamhusein. and we were oh, my god, that kid is skacared to death of this gu. he's comparing what obama did today to that. that takes a sick kind of connection to do that. >> he basically accused janet reno and bill clinton of murdering people merely to further his assault gun ban. >> explain how that would work? here's the question. wait a minute. how do you organize -- >> you don't want to follow. >> how do you organize branch davidion? to come up with the idea he justified the raids because he wanted to come out against gun control. >> he said the president wanted them dead because they liked their guns. you can't go down that path. >> the people who believe that you lost them. you lost them there. >> what about militia members after those two guys were executed? one of them was. the other in jail for life. but the bureaucrats are dead because the people, just workers f
and when i hear these guys talking about the obama girls being somehow food for discussion here, let's talk about their safety as some joke line. but then, talking about this guy saying the president reminds him of sadhamhusein. and we were oh, my god, that kid is skacared to death of this gu. he's comparing what obama did today to that. that takes a sick kind of connection to do that. >> he basically accused janet reno and bill clinton of murdering people merely to further his assault...
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on "morning joe" today, senior obama campaign advisor robert gibbs suggested that getting meaningful legislation passed is going to be a long slog, but that the white house has talked about getting his election apparatus involved in this fight. let's listen. >> the president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. it's time to turn that loose. it's time to turn that loose for something more than just an election, right? if the nra's got a list, then obama for america has a bigger list and it is time to get activated again. >> so susan, he's surrounding himself with kids today, new winewtown families are going to be here, very powerful image. he still has the inaugural address, the state of the union. how much is the white house going to depend on public pressure swaying congress to get some of this passed? >> well, i think that the president will do some things by executive action, that will maybe not go as far as some gun control advocates like but i am not convinced this will be the health care initiative of his second term. i think immigration is more likely, comprehe
on "morning joe" today, senior obama campaign advisor robert gibbs suggested that getting meaningful legislation passed is going to be a long slog, but that the white house has talked about getting his election apparatus involved in this fight. let's listen. >> the president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. it's time to turn that loose. it's time to turn that loose for something more than just an election, right? if the nra's got a list, then obama for...
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and this is something that president obama really seems to want to usher? >> the catalyst of the conversation, though, seems to be based on what we witness as a country in newtown. play your michael bloomberg was on our air earlier and talking about the fact that we can use that as an example. we have a bigger problem in this country. gentlemen, take a listen. >> as horrific as sandy hook has been and all of the other seechliseechl i seemingly episodes of mass violence, we experience that carnage or worse every single day across our country because every day of the year an average of 33 americans are murdered with guns. here's another way to think about what that means. one week from today president obama will take the oath of office for his second term. and unless we take action, during those four years some 48,000 americans will be killed with guns. >> mayor michael bloomberg speaking from baltimore, maryland, along with governor martin o'malley there as they introduce the summit on reducing gun violence in america. when we think about the numbers in just
and this is something that president obama really seems to want to usher? >> the catalyst of the conversation, though, seems to be based on what we witness as a country in newtown. play your michael bloomberg was on our air earlier and talking about the fact that we can use that as an example. we have a bigger problem in this country. gentlemen, take a listen. >> as horrific as sandy hook has been and all of the other seechliseechl i seemingly episodes of mass violence, we...
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people who make the argument have no idea what they're talking about. >> ironically president obama, a constitutional scholar and scalia are in the same place on this issue. yes, you have the right, but not without responsibilities. okay. dr. peterson -- >> yes. >> i don't know if it gets more bizarre than this. i feel like every day there's a new bizarre from rush limbaugh. he has taken a very strange twist in his defense of gun enthusiasts. he's now claiming that they are the martin luther kings in this civil rights fight. >> if a lot of african-americans back in the '60s had guns and the legal right to use them for self-defense, do you think they would have needed selma? if john lewis had had a gun, would he have been beat upside the head on the bridge? >> i have to tell you -- >> karen, listen, this is disgusting. first of all, it's not original -- >> rush is now -- it sounds like he's trying to be a member of the black panthers. this is ridiculous. >> well, there's that irony as well. but it's not original. he's taking it from the comments from the other right wing nut job who w
people who make the argument have no idea what they're talking about. >> ironically president obama, a constitutional scholar and scalia are in the same place on this issue. yes, you have the right, but not without responsibilities. okay. dr. peterson -- >> yes. >> i don't know if it gets more bizarre than this. i feel like every day there's a new bizarre from rush limbaugh. he has taken a very strange twist in his defense of gun enthusiasts. he's now claiming that they are...
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we're talking about whether or not to kick the can down the road. i think mood is that we have come to the end of the road. with that kind of talk from republicans, in the house, will anything get done? >> i think, listen, they have to come up with some kind of agreement. if they don't, in fact, her premonition will come true and parts of the government will shut down. listen. you have an echo of different republican leader that is are out there saying that the theory of a government shutdown would not be such a bad idea and setting this up, trying to desensitize what would otherwise be a pretty calamitous thing for the country and the economy. >> we heard the same thing about the fiscal cliff from progressives on this show saying let's go over the cliff, how bad could it be? >> absolutely. people on the left saying the same thing and what i think is going to happen here is going to come to a short-term agreement and they're going to wait for the president's budget which is due out i think the beginning of february, less than a month and so, listen.
we're talking about whether or not to kick the can down the road. i think mood is that we have come to the end of the road. with that kind of talk from republicans, in the house, will anything get done? >> i think, listen, they have to come up with some kind of agreement. if they don't, in fact, her premonition will come true and parts of the government will shut down. listen. you have an echo of different republican leader that is are out there saying that the theory of a government...
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the extreme right, let's call it what it is, has gone on about barack obama as a socialist, conspiracy theories about secret plans to take guns and dominate the country, and now because biden comes out and talks about high capacity magazines they say finally, we finally, they have something -- >> nailed him. >> to nail on, and they are -- >> i don't want to make fun of these people because 1% of the country, 5% or 10%. >> they are also dangerous because they are armed. >> that is a problem. remember where i get that phrase we're going to the nut country. that's what john kennedy said the day he died. yesterday rubbing limbaugh said the president cannot be stopped to getting what he wants. you don't think this is going to the mainstream of the right. here's rush. let's listen. >> you know, obama will try anything and has, and nobody stops him, by the way. he has trumped the constitution's first amendment and religious liberty. he has trumped the constitution on immigration. he essentially granted amnesty to a million kids without benefit of legislation. he'll do anything that nobody tri
the extreme right, let's call it what it is, has gone on about barack obama as a socialist, conspiracy theories about secret plans to take guns and dominate the country, and now because biden comes out and talks about high capacity magazines they say finally, we finally, they have something -- >> nailed him. >> to nail on, and they are -- >> i don't want to make fun of these people because 1% of the country, 5% or 10%. >> they are also dangerous because they are armed....
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obama's daughters. using his daughters in their insane propaganda about their cause of making sure that american mass murderers are the best equipped mass murderers in the world. i don't like these subjects, and we're going to have to talk about it a little bit more. because today, instead of taking down that video the nra spent the day defending it. we'll have more on that coming up. >> we have to examine ourselves and our hearts, and ask ourselves what is important. this will not happen unless the american people demand it. if parents and teachers, police officers and pastors, if hunters and sportsmen, if responsible gun owners, if americans of every background stand up and say enough, we have suffered too much pain. and care too much about our children to allow this to continue, then change will come. that is what it is going to take. you know, in the letter that julie wrote me, she said, i know that laws have to be passed by congress. but i beg you to try very hard. julie, i will try very hard. >> t
obama's daughters. using his daughters in their insane propaganda about their cause of making sure that american mass murderers are the best equipped mass murderers in the world. i don't like these subjects, and we're going to have to talk about it a little bit more. because today, instead of taking down that video the nra spent the day defending it. we'll have more on that coming up. >> we have to examine ourselves and our hearts, and ask ourselves what is important. this will not happen...
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and, jen, in the washington post today charles krauthammer talking about how president obama has successfully been neutering republican members of the house. again, from your insiders' perspective, is that you guys talk about in secret meetings? how to neuter those on the right? >> look, i don't think it's possible to neuter the right. so i don't think that's the goal. look, i will say because i want to touch on something you were just talking about. in that this is not -- if i were advising the republicans, i would say this is not about tactics or poll tested talking points. this is about what is your agenda? do you support equal pay for women? do you support comprehensive immigration reform? so it's -- i think within the democratic party, it's hard to understand why they keep having meetings about their tactics when really they need to take a look at how they're not identifying with or relating to the demographics of the country. >> hey, thomas, can i say real quick to jen on that point. you're absolutely right. and if you disagree with the things that jen just outlined there as is part of
and, jen, in the washington post today charles krauthammer talking about how president obama has successfully been neutering republican members of the house. again, from your insiders' perspective, is that you guys talk about in secret meetings? how to neuter those on the right? >> look, i don't think it's possible to neuter the right. so i don't think that's the goal. look, i will say because i want to touch on something you were just talking about. in that this is not -- if i were...
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the other end of it from a policy standpoint is president obama talking about more money for psychiatric services for specifically young people to try to figure out an early age prone to violent behavior. i guess my two questions about that, i wonder, first of all, is this going to necessitate a change in the law about doctor/patient confidentiality? if a red flag, you know, is raised, are we going to need to change the law so the doctor is able to alert the authorities and act on the information? flip side of that is if that's the case and the doctor's empowered to do that, do you think that might cause young people to clam up and not be as forthcoming as we need them to be? >> great questions, steve. i think the answer to the first thing is, yes. you're seeing a proposal in colorado not getting enough attention on the mental health side and proposed a change in the legal standard where now doctors who previously were supposed to inform the authorities if there was some imminent risk to, you know, of harm to others, now will have a slightly, you know, a less stringent standard of substa
the other end of it from a policy standpoint is president obama talking about more money for psychiatric services for specifically young people to try to figure out an early age prone to violent behavior. i guess my two questions about that, i wonder, first of all, is this going to necessitate a change in the law about doctor/patient confidentiality? if a red flag, you know, is raised, are we going to need to change the law so the doctor is able to alert the authorities and act on the...
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we always talk about whether or not we're going to kick the can down the road. i think the mood is that we have come to the end of the road. what road? and republican congresswoman marsha blackburn of tennessee said this to msnbc's chris jansing. let me ask you if you're willing to shut the government down? >> we're looking at all the options, there is the option of government shutdown, the option of raising the debt ceiling in short-term increments. i think there is a way to avoid default if it requires shutting down portions of the government. let's look at that. >> and in his press conference, president obama quoted speaker john boehner from 2011. >> that would be a financial disaster, not only for our country but for the worldwide economy. i don't think it is a question that is even on the table. >> and the last question of his press conference, the president was asked if he may be more successful with some of the nuts you just heard from if he spent more quality time with them. >> you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. >> this,
we always talk about whether or not we're going to kick the can down the road. i think the mood is that we have come to the end of the road. what road? and republican congresswoman marsha blackburn of tennessee said this to msnbc's chris jansing. let me ask you if you're willing to shut the government down? >> we're looking at all the options, there is the option of government shutdown, the option of raising the debt ceiling in short-term increments. i think there is a way to avoid...
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trying to teach young people, this is not like your friendly saturday afternoons with 4-year-olds to talk about guns are bad. you are standing on -- standing between people who are sometimes at this moment potentially about president obama in t to be in a gunfight. >> the young men and women throughout america, we have stood in the middle of 45 conflicts in chicago. in one, a guy shot a grandmother's window, then burned her car. he said he wasn't going to listen to anybody. as an end result, the grandmother's grandsons are still alive today. that's something we caught on the front end. >> i want to bring tracy into this. i know you know one another from some of the work for many years in chicago. >> one thing that is important about what cease-fire does is addresses the violence of young men, african-american men in particular. we know gun violence is the number one source, reason for death among that age group. we also know looking at chicago in particular that the way people are connected in the communities is important. if you look at the high crime community where tio and his colleagu
trying to teach young people, this is not like your friendly saturday afternoons with 4-year-olds to talk about guns are bad. you are standing on -- standing between people who are sometimes at this moment potentially about president obama in t to be in a gunfight. >> the young men and women throughout america, we have stood in the middle of 45 conflicts in chicago. in one, a guy shot a grandmother's window, then burned her car. he said he wasn't going to listen to anybody. as an end...
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we're talking about the role joe biden has played and will continue to play in the obama administration. in some ways it's an odd pairing. the vice president was running against barack obama. what do you think we're going to see in this next term? i don't want to get into gaming out of 2016. we're -- >> thank you. >> we can take it a deep breath but i think there's -- it's been notable to me from a political permanent that the first two big initiatives of this year of 2013, the president has had vice president joe biden help. it was the president presumably who directed joe biden to open up a line of negotiations with mitch mcconnell and that was widely reported. when the deal was struck, they was to the benefit in terms of representational capital o'and with the gun task force as well. what does that indicate to you? >> it indicates what we've been talking about. the vice president has 30 years of experience and he has a wide variety of experiences. both in foreign policy and on the crime bill, the '94 crime bill is something he shepherded and his extraordinary ability to deal with sen
we're talking about the role joe biden has played and will continue to play in the obama administration. in some ways it's an odd pairing. the vice president was running against barack obama. what do you think we're going to see in this next term? i don't want to get into gaming out of 2016. we're -- >> thank you. >> we can take it a deep breath but i think there's -- it's been notable to me from a political permanent that the first two big initiatives of this year of 2013, the...
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his poll numbers went up, and i imagine that the same thing would happen with obama. and, of course, there would be this attendant impact on the economy and attendant impact on people getting their government benefits and all sorts of things. so, again, i think the republican party talks about refashioning and rebranding and i think one of the ideas is to look at reagan. they always talk about reagan, but if you look at some of the things reagan actually did around immigration reform, for instance, this isn't a party that so far is will to do that and embrace some of those parts of reagan's legacy. >> steve, we heard colin powell saying this weekend that he doesn't understand why senior republicans continue to tolerate the kind of racial code words that actually proved self-injurious to their party. yet when they talk about the debt creating they're help to injure the nation so long as they get their own way. is this party destined for a reputation that has nothing to do with constructive help and more about damaging themselves and the country? >> i think there was so
his poll numbers went up, and i imagine that the same thing would happen with obama. and, of course, there would be this attendant impact on the economy and attendant impact on people getting their government benefits and all sorts of things. so, again, i think the republican party talks about refashioning and rebranding and i think one of the ideas is to look at reagan. they always talk about reagan, but if you look at some of the things reagan actually did around immigration reform, for...
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president obama is targeting the rights of law-abiding citizens instead of what caused the violence. that is a very strong response from someone who's talked about as a 2016 potential candidate. >> and he also accused the president of abusing his executive power in the 23 actions. when you read the 23 actions, frankly, these are very weak directives. there's not much more the white house could do. they've got a whole bunch of things out there, but to call it an overreach is a big, big stretch there. but you're right, andrea, that's presidential politics. the most important responses, though, on this front have come from the two people in charge of putting legislation on the floor of the house and the senate. and speaker boehner's spokesperson said we'll be happy to look at any proposals that pass the senate. well, what did harry reid say last weekend about voting on any bills having to do with gun legislation? they are not going to vote on anything unless they know it can pass the house. here we are, stalemate. >> exactly. >> back to you, no, over to you. neither one of them -- and t
president obama is targeting the rights of law-abiding citizens instead of what caused the violence. that is a very strong response from someone who's talked about as a 2016 potential candidate. >> and he also accused the president of abusing his executive power in the 23 actions. when you read the 23 actions, frankly, these are very weak directives. there's not much more the white house could do. they've got a whole bunch of things out there, but to call it an overreach is a big, big...
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hagel talks expansively. he's a little like biden. to his credit, and i think it's something obama likes about him, he's not a totally programmed -- >> biden had a lot to do with pushing this, didn't he? >> i think that's a key thing to understand. those two guys are really close. as far as the speed of it, i think they drew a lesson from what happened to susan rice. she hung out there twisting on the vine. they didn't marshall the forces. she didn't have a lot of public defenders. this is the opposite of that. this is an organized, quick campaign. they want to batten down the hatches and basically make him safe for people to vote for and move forward with it and get the controversy behind them. >> let's talk about another big event that happened this week, another shoe that dropped, general powell this sunday. let's look at general powell on our own "meet the press" and the way he went at this very directly. he was very pointed here in the middle of what we're going to show you, very pointed for a politician to talk with this kind of
hagel talks expansively. he's a little like biden. to his credit, and i think it's something obama likes about him, he's not a totally programmed -- >> biden had a lot to do with pushing this, didn't he? >> i think that's a key thing to understand. those two guys are really close. as far as the speed of it, i think they drew a lesson from what happened to susan rice. she hung out there twisting on the vine. they didn't marshall the forces. she didn't have a lot of public defenders....
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extremist politicians talking about impeaching barack obama. you have guys that have worked for supreme court justices that say even talking about this is unconstitution unconstitutional. no, it's not. scalia said you have a right to protect your family and have a handgun in your house. the other things, that's subject to government regulation. they overreached. the mothre they overreached, i warned them, i have been a member all my life -- >> that's nice. >> i will do it again. >> willie, what's my biggest fault. >> you love a little too much. >> that is it. >> i love a little too much. i shared some of that love last week. anyw anyway, it is a still not too late. they can come to the table and be part of a comprehensive package. i'm sure joe biden will accept them and joe manchin will accept them and conservatives will accept them to come to the table. i'm sure their membership wants them to do it, not the survivalists or gun manufacturers who have made millions of dollars off the death of 6 and 7 year-olds, the truth. it's not too late. if t
extremist politicians talking about impeaching barack obama. you have guys that have worked for supreme court justices that say even talking about this is unconstitution unconstitutional. no, it's not. scalia said you have a right to protect your family and have a handgun in your house. the other things, that's subject to government regulation. they overreached. the mothre they overreached, i warned them, i have been a member all my life -- >> that's nice. >> i will do it again....
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. >>> everybody is talking about oprah's interview lance armstrong where he finally admitted to doping. get this. the interview supposedly lasted close to three hours. so it's sort of like a regular interview but on steroids. president obama's inaugural parade will feature eight floats including a hawaii float to honor his birthplace and illinois float to honor the first lady's home state and a kenyan float just to mess with republicans. why not? >>> well it's time now for entertainment news. adding insult to injury for tony danza, "the new york post" is reported the danza told fellow first class travelers he caught the flu after he vomited into an air sickness bag. kate upton had a different story saying i found out that lisa marie benson has a phobia of throwing up. it's funny the guy next to her is hung over. she was referring to danza but kate missed reruns of "taxi" and "who's the boss" and didn't recognize him. >>> amanda bynes resurfaced with her cheek piercing. >>> charlie sheen is going to be a grandfather now that his 28-year-old daughter is pregnant. her mother is sheen's hi
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. >>> plus, how has president obama impacted the country during his first four years in office? we'll reveal surprising statistics. it's all next on "first look." ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. my ex-girlfriend... 7th grade math teacher. who is this? that's pete. my... [ dennis' voice ] allstate agent. a "starving artist" has an allstate agent? he got me... [ dennis' voice ] the allstate value plan. it's their most affordable car insurance and you still get an agent. [ normal voice ] i call it... [ dennis' voice ] the protector. is that what you call it? the protector! okay. ♪ the allstate value plan. are you in good hands? >>> good morning. welcome back n new mexico, authorities say a 15-year-old boy is facing murder and other charges after a fatal shooting over the weekend. five people were killed, the boy's father, his wife and thre
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because john boehner didn't have a relationship with barack obama. when barack obama got on "meet the press" sunday morning and said yeah, we'll make adjustments to how we pay out social security. and then harry reid in the afternoon said no, we're not going to, if john boehner had a relationship like tip o'neill had a relationship with ronald reagan, they'd pick up the phone and say listen, here's the deal. i'll bring you the votes you need, but listen, you're going to have to tell harry reid to back off. okay, mr. president? we're not going to show you up. you said it this morning on "meet the press." we need that. give me that, and we'll get a vote on the floor and we'll pass this thing. but instead, there was no relationship. so they talked past each other. it was shortsighted and ended up costing taxpayers a lot of money over the next 10, 20 years. >> mika, those were forced meetings just behind the very top of the leadership ladder. what we're talking about is bringing together the constituent members on a monthly basis so they can have dialogu
because john boehner didn't have a relationship with barack obama. when barack obama got on "meet the press" sunday morning and said yeah, we'll make adjustments to how we pay out social security. and then harry reid in the afternoon said no, we're not going to, if john boehner had a relationship like tip o'neill had a relationship with ronald reagan, they'd pick up the phone and say listen, here's the deal. i'll bring you the votes you need, but listen, you're going to have to tell...
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let's talk first about barack obama. what did you see in him the second time. i was not surprised by the first, but i was surprised by the second. you have been critical saying he needed to narrow his focus. what did you see in him the second time. >> nothing wrong with being critical and also supporting. what i saw in the second opportunity to be president of the united states is we had seen progress in the four years he had been president. the financial system was stabilized and the economy is picking up again. we are out of iraq and coming out of afghanistan. he handled terrorism quite well. i saw a guy getting the job done and deserving of a second term. the first term doesn't have the historic significance but there is a warm feeling about bringing a black man into the white house. he has done the job. has he done everything correctly or perfectly? no. i talk to him on a regular basis and we have a condit conversation. why did the republicans lose? as i tried to indicate it's not those of us who are being critical of them but for them to say why are we los
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agree or disagree, is there an ideological split, that there is so little trust that they feel that obama is bent on really achieving conquest over the republicans by the midterms, trying to isolate tea party republicans and not really coming to too much of a deal. you hear the president talk about, well, he'd be willing to make some modifications to the medicare program. i mean, he certainly is not willing to get into a negotiation over that because he thinks it's going to be one-sided. so can just underlines how far apart they are when it comes to any sort of big deal. and the more people i talk to around the hill, people who know the president, that we might be looking at much smaller deals to try to chip away at some of these issues rather than this concept of a grand bargain. >> chuck, we've gotten the new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. horrible numbers for congress overall and pretty bad numbers for the republican brand. yet paul ryan yesterday coming out and as a leader sort of talking about we may need to be more accepting of the fact that we only control the house. we don't
agree or disagree, is there an ideological split, that there is so little trust that they feel that obama is bent on really achieving conquest over the republicans by the midterms, trying to isolate tea party republicans and not really coming to too much of a deal. you hear the president talk about, well, he'd be willing to make some modifications to the medicare program. i mean, he certainly is not willing to get into a negotiation over that because he thinks it's going to be one-sided. so can...
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that's something we have not talked a lot about, what is michelle obama's role going to be in this -- >> they have decisions to make with this. she's so popular. >> and she's a real asset and so likable. >> the fact that she announced ofa, the 501-c4 suggests he could be taking a more direct policy role. she's not doing policy in the way mrs. clinton did, but i suspect ofa could give her a way to think about how to connect the volunteerism traditional model of a first lady job with a more accurate policy role. >> she'll be a motivator in the base, no doubt. >> she's done so much with joining forces with the military families, and also with dr. jill biden, there's the vice president. >> senator lamar alexander from tennessee. >> on the inaugural committee. >> are we noticing the jfks a pekaspect to the joe biden atti today? he's not a subtle man. >> that's what we like best about joe, though. >> does joe biden have an enemy in washington? i mean, joe biden, talk about his popularity and him potentially running, but of all the years spent in washington, is there an anti-joe biden core i
that's something we have not talked a lot about, what is michelle obama's role going to be in this -- >> they have decisions to make with this. she's so popular. >> and she's a real asset and so likable. >> the fact that she announced ofa, the 501-c4 suggests he could be taking a more direct policy role. she's not doing policy in the way mrs. clinton did, but i suspect ofa could give her a way to think about how to connect the volunteerism traditional model of a first lady job...